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13 July 2008 @ 12:45 am
Cosplay problem- Opinions please!  
If you've known me long enough, you'll know I have a huge love for Malice Mizer. I pretty much loved every incarnation of the band, and I've cosplayed both Mana and Yu~ki. One day, I'll wear that Mana costume again when I can look supahot in my vinyl& lab coat again
I still love my Au Revoir PV Yu~ki costume very much, even if I've only worn it to one con. I may wear it to Afest if I can psyche myself up enough to do the makeup. Really, the costumes don't take more than 20-30 min to put on, but it's the daunting 2+hr makeup marathon that is intimidating. I really should wear Yu~ki at Afest while my contacts are still good. They're a little inaccurate, but I haven't had a chance to wear them with the costume really...

OH YEAH >:O And I need to screw my staff back together :X We kind of demolished it for transportation for Expo. Maybe I should just remake it.

But I digress... A LOT

Last time I was at Jo Ann's, I found this really flamboyant gold paisley brocade. I didnt' know what I wanted to do with it, but I loved it. I figured I would find SOME sort of use for it. With this whole pirate lolita idea I've been throwing around (yes, I know I'm like 2 years too late on that trend, but whatever) I thought maybe I could use this brocade to line the inside of my justaucoups. Photos posted at the bottom for you guys to look at. I think it may be overpowering the velvet. It's a deep purple velvet. It's not a bright royal color, but it's very difficult to photograph well. I'd call is maybe a plum color. But in the pictures, the gold brocade is very stark against it. I can't decide if I like it or not, as I think it might distract from the velvet when I move and the lining flashes occassionally.

So... maybe I could use it for somthing else?

If you asked me what my dream costumes were 4 years ago, I would have said Au Revoir PV Yu~ki and the Gekka no Yasokyukou/Merveilles Yu~ki costumes. My biggest obstacle to clear for making the Gekka Yu~ki costume, though, has always been fabric. I can't decide on a fabric.

A few years ago I stumbled upon this amazing site: It's Yukari Ohba's website. The designer of MANY of the MM costumes. It may have been posted on Zoi's LJ, actually :X
I thought it was wonderful, because not only did it have photos of the completed costume, but the actual design notes, etc for it. The costume in question is in the 9th row, first one on the left. Or you could just scroll down to the MM section, and it's the first one on the left :P Either way...
Originally, I thought that the yellow brocade used on Yu~ki's justaucoups had a fleur de lis pattern going on. Dismayed, I figured I'd never find anything close. I even checked all sorts of weird places like clergy fabric supply websites, etc looking for anything with a similar color/pattern. One of the closest things I saw was this upholstery fabric at Jo Ann's that came in yellow. Unlike the photos on the Yukari Ohba site, though, there wern't any gold threads running through it, and I wasn't sure the pattern was that close. The original drawing has curliques all over the fabric, but the end result had some sort of yellow/gold hybrid brocade going on. Worse yet, it looked like in the Ohba photos, the jacket was almost completely metallic and the breeches were made out of rust orange velvet. On all other promo photos, it looks like regular peep yellow velvet. I realize that all the promo photos are taken under very very bright light to make the makeup pop, etc, and that the Ohba photos are very dark, so I'm really not sure what to do.

You can probably see why I gave up on the costume for a while.

But giving a second look at this paisley brocade, I don't know. It could work maybe??
BTW.. No one loves a bassist.. srsly.. so hard to find good reference pictures. Why do I do this to myself? XP
Ref photos of the costume being worn.
Group shot, Our hero is back& to the left
Yay Wikipedia

Here's a good close-up of Kami. I'm linking this for fabric print comparison. Most US cosplayers I've seen of this particular costume do use the pink curlique upholstery from Jo Ann's. It's the stuff I used on my Norn costume
Original outfit

For comparison, the print on my Norn costume:
Yay Upholstery
Man.. I love that costume. I should totally drag it out and wear it again.

I tried to find the fabric on the jo ann's website for comparison, but they don't have it up there anymore, so maybe it's discontinued D:

Anyway... WTF should I do? Hold out for better fabric? Actually make this costume and use the paisley? Use the Jo ann's upholstery curliques? Spend stupid ammounts of money on 60 dollar a yard gold upholstery brocade that's REALLY BUSY to distract everyone?" (On sale for 36 a yard!)
This stuff here is also really exciting... But totally innacurate

At any rate, from the business of the jacket, I'd say it's more than just bright yellow curliques, and the paisley could work there. On the other hand, there are some darker colors going through my brocade that I don't know how I feel about. It'd probably work. I bought 5 yards, so I'd probably have enough for the jacket and the hat? XD

At any rate, after I finish my pirate lolita, I'll have a muslin pattern of that damned period justaucoups pattern, resized to fit. It's the one that's floating around everywhere that I've totally linked here before, but he're another great costumer's site in case you need a refresher.
If you click on the link to the pattern, you can see it at the largest size available to the internet. I'm actually pretty intimidated with the thought of resizing it and scaling it up without one of those projection things. :/

I don't care if you know fuckall about sewing :P If you have the time to look at a few pictures, I'd love to hear what you guys think, because this has been an ongoing fabric crisis for a while now. It's been long enough since I bought my yellow "Dolly" wig for the original Au Revoir costume, I think I could deal with buying another in black if I ever got this mess sorted.

Oh gawd, I fail at HTML. It was so embarassing after I'd finished typing everything that I had to lock the damned entry and spend 20 min fixing my typos. Now you know why I skidded by with a B in Pascal.

Edit: Maybe I should just email Yukari Ohba for giggles& grins and see what happens O..o
Current Mood: crazycrazy
1sheep: explosion1sheep on July 13th, 2008 02:52 pm (UTC)
It totally looks more canary yellow to me ... In the PV too. I'd go for something yellow rather than more like what the cosplayer you linked to to did. I like the material you have quite well, but I know if I were making it I would want something less busy, and it could be the lighting, but maybe a little less reddish.

I like the color and business-degree of the Old World Charm Velutto Hazelnut that you linked to, but it is super expensive. I'd use the one you have before buying it (even on sale, probably)... Unless the costume wasn't going to be too expensive otherwise, and then I might splurge for the fabric (but it doesn't look like a cheap costume). ^^

Or, yellow felt! j/k
1sheep: wtf1sheep on July 13th, 2008 02:54 pm (UTC)
BTW, when I said business-degree I mean the degree to which it looks busy, lol, but afterward realized that there is already something called a business degree, which people go to school to get. -__-;
HIDE your facekyonomiko on July 13th, 2008 05:15 pm (UTC)
It's all good, I see what you mean :D

The thing that was hanging me up, though, is that it wasn't a cosplayer I linked to, it's the original costume designer of that and many of MM/ Kamijo/theALFEE's costumes. And there's such a huge difference between the designer's own photos& notes and the PV& photoshoot photos. I don't think I'd be opposed to spending more on a fabric if I found one that screamed accuracy at me, but it's so hard to get close ups on the fabric pattern. I basically have to go what you can see close-up of Kami& Mana's since they're also prints XP
1sheep1sheep on July 14th, 2008 04:18 am (UTC)
Ooops, I totally misunderstood that for some reason. Sorry about that. ^^;;; In that case, I see where you are coming from... What I would do is cater to my audience, though. If I were cosplaying in Japan where a bigger percentage of people could have seen the costume in person or be familiar with the costume designer, maybe I'd be inclined to go for accuracy. However, when you take in to account your audience in the U.S., most likely they've seen the photos and PV, etc. and that's what they'll recognize you from. I know it's bizarre, but I actually think the audience is a big part of the "success" of a costume.

If you feel differently and you know in your heart that accuracy is your bottom line, then just base it completely off the designer's website. There are probably just two other options... one is to do a sort of hybrid of the two, but in my mind that doesn't really make sense, and the last is to just take creative license with it, but you don't strike me as someone who is really going to be happy with that.
1sheep: wtf1sheep on July 14th, 2008 04:23 am (UTC)
lol, I just looked at your entry again and I don't know how I completely skipped the line that says "The designer of MANY of the MM costumes." (^-^); And the title "costume designer" on the designer's site! Yay for trying to think just after waking up. XD
HIDE your facekyonomiko on July 14th, 2008 04:52 am (UTC)
It's ok. It was a super long post, so I'm surprised people read through the whole thing anyway! :D

But for the costume.. it's one of those that I've kinda always wanted to do, but no fabric really "jumped" at me. :( And in my head, everytime I think about that curly yellow fabric from Jo Ann's, I think "That's great! It'll be awesome!" but when I see it in person, I'm kinda like.. eehhhh... and the designer's photos look so different from the PV shots, it's like.. ugh, what do I do? XD I know I'm waffling horribly on this :P

Usually on other costumes when the anime/manga/artbook/whatever looks completely different in every photo, I just pick whatever parts I like best and throw it all together. I don't know why it's been so hard for me to make up my mind on this one
1sheep: heart1sheep on July 14th, 2008 05:17 am (UTC)
Maybe it wouldn't have been so hard if you'd seen a fabric that you DID really like for it? Maybe you should come to NYC on a fabric shopping trip. XD (though I actually have no idea if you'd find it here either). Maybe my answer for everything shouldn't really be... come visit me. XDDDDD

Maybe I should go to bed. ^^;;;;;;;;;;;;
HIDE your facekyonomiko on July 14th, 2008 04:08 pm (UTC)
Hahaha. Well, if I've learned anything from Project Runway, NY has exciting fabric warehouses :O
It's a pretty scary& intimidating city for me, though. If I ever end up visiting, though, I'll definitely hit you up when planning the trip, because I think it'd be ever scarier without a guide :X